taya
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Day 2
Jul 26, 2011 23:39:05 GMT -5
Post by taya on Jul 26, 2011 23:39:05 GMT -5
The dead: Stever777- Left 4 Dead (Mason)- Made "The Sacrifice" Wandering Hero- F.E.A.R. 2- Failed to move that gear up Cythraul- Red Orchestra- Not balanced for lean
Looks like Langly was guarded. Interesting.
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Jul 26, 2011 23:51:10 GMT -5
Post by Infidel on Jul 26, 2011 23:51:10 GMT -5
Always keep in mind that what the village knows, the mafia knows.
Try to figure out what the village would do based on that, and coordinate your kills accordingly.
Eliminating choices is the most reliable method for choosing kills. Fish in a barrel tactic.
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Jul 27, 2011 1:26:34 GMT -5
Post by MrTLicious on Jul 27, 2011 1:26:34 GMT -5
Taya, do not try to network. I think you've been seered. I'm combing the votes to see who the likely seers are. Anyone want to try to infiltrate the network?
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Jul 27, 2011 1:29:18 GMT -5
Post by MrTLicious on Jul 27, 2011 1:29:18 GMT -5
INANTP and Tmoiy were the taya voters. My guess is INANTP.
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Jul 27, 2011 1:45:17 GMT -5
Post by MrTLicious on Jul 27, 2011 1:45:17 GMT -5
Or it could have been Baidol if he suspected anything, or if you were his only chatting partner, so he wanted to see if you were solid.
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taya
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Jul 27, 2011 7:28:35 GMT -5
Post by taya on Jul 27, 2011 7:28:35 GMT -5
We don't know that I've been seered yet. KingMole apparently voted for me as a gut feeling, unless he's trying to see who defends me or doesn't vote for me.
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Jul 27, 2011 8:58:35 GMT -5
Post by captainmarcus on Jul 27, 2011 8:58:35 GMT -5
So we got Cytharul, Langly was guarded, Stever777 was voted out, and the vig got Wandering hero?
Also why did we change the order yesterday?
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taya
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Jul 27, 2011 9:07:19 GMT -5
Post by taya on Jul 27, 2011 9:07:19 GMT -5
Cythraul was being really buddy buddy with Stever. In retrospect it was way too obvious; the real mason wouldn't have acted like that.
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Jul 27, 2011 9:47:36 GMT -5
Post by Infidel on Jul 27, 2011 9:47:36 GMT -5
Sometimes they do! Either way, going after the unknown mason before they can get guarded is the right move, and worth a shot.
With a confirmed villager, you have the specials hooking up now. The guard might be on the mason, it might not. He has done his job and isn't that valuable now. Guard might be on the seer or such now.
Your mission is to list the players, eliminate suspected vanillas (because many helpfully make it rather clear one way or another by the way they play) and choose from the short list, looking for the guard and hoping to hit unguarded specials secondary. Watch for posts that hint at some kind of network connections. Look at what is not said.
With regards to an early start on a mafia vote, there is opportunity. Not only will having one of you hopping on right now confuse their search in future days, making the bandwagon seem uncontested will make people feel uneasy. If those placeholders are just vanillas sheeping along, the network will grow uneasy because they don't know they are vanilla, but we do.
Sometimes the best way to avert a bandwagon is to not fight it.
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Jul 27, 2011 9:55:29 GMT -5
Post by MrTLicious on Jul 27, 2011 9:55:29 GMT -5
Well it's a good thing we did change, or there would have only been 1 kill. Do you think if self-guards are allowed that Langly is likely to be the guard, or just that someone chose to guard him? We may have accidentally allowed Langly to become a very powerful village-comfirmed ally.
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taya
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Jul 27, 2011 10:22:33 GMT -5
Post by taya on Jul 27, 2011 10:22:33 GMT -5
MrTLicious I think you're doing a good job in the thread. We definitely don't look like we are in cahoots.
Hopefully the vote will gently ease somewhere else.
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Jul 27, 2011 10:24:23 GMT -5
Post by 38thdoe on Jul 27, 2011 10:24:23 GMT -5
So Infidel, I don't think I've ever seen this, but what would we lose if Taya claimed she was the seer. Either the real seer comes forward and we get someone to kill or at the least someone in the network comes forward. Possible confusion and possibly guarding the wrong person. She's on the chopping block right now anyways.
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Jul 27, 2011 10:28:26 GMT -5
Post by MrTLicious on Jul 27, 2011 10:28:26 GMT -5
I'm going to retract taya and vote for someone else. I think it's good timing. What do you guys think?
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Jul 27, 2011 10:31:25 GMT -5
Post by Infidel on Jul 27, 2011 10:31:25 GMT -5
The real seer probably contacted the mason.
Even if they haven't yet, if you epic reveal to the thread instead of going to the mason, they will know you're a liar, because the seer wouldn't do that.
Likely the real seer will be in touch with them, and you will just be more suspicious and be giving up a mafia. Since it is no longer public, the mafia will not gain the knowledge of who the real seer is, as it will be mediated through the mason.
The way mafia usually loses is by cracking under pressure. You want their doubts from the lack of any real info on the bandwagon to make them change their minds. People get uneasy and jumpy and change, given that this isn't happening at the end of the day.
Taya's situation is only as bad as you make it.
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taya
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Jul 27, 2011 10:31:40 GMT -5
Post by taya on Jul 27, 2011 10:31:40 GMT -5
I am not going to claim to be a seer, but I'd like to hear Infidel's answer.
MrT, don't retract yet.
edit: yeah
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